Episode: 29 Xenogenesis - Adulthood-Rites: I: LO Chapter 6

Show Notes

In episode 29, Richard and Michael discuss Tino’s extensive fascination with Lilith’s breasts…

Timestamps

00:00:00 - Start
00:00:32 - Welcome
00:01:40 - Richard’s interactive plot
00:02:18 - Chapter 6 predictions
00:04:38 - Chapter 6 summary begins
00:06:10 - How would movie adaptation look like? [1]
00:07:30 - People appreciate costumes and animatronics instead of CGI
00:10:20 - Tino’s view of Lilith
00:12:16 - Tino, Wray and Wray’s daughters
00:14:55 - You should always be wary of the questions asked by the father…
00:15:51 - Environmental effect on Oankali metamorphosis
00:19:43 - There would have to be a proper etiquette for Oankali-stype conversations
00:22:18 - Tino can’t take his eyes off the girls…
00:22:43 - …because Nikanj is messing with pheromones
00:23:20 - Tino and breasts again…
00:24:05 - Joseph and Nikanj
00:25:56 - Tino could remember his conditioning [2 - 4]
00:29:35 - The Trade
00:30:53 - This hits a bit too close to home
00:31:57 - Nuclear fallout [5]
00:40:41 - Nikanj explainj why they couldn’t allow humans to go back to normal
00:42:17 - People are already making guns
00:47:06 - It would be sad to lose them, but oh well…
00:48:55 - Who’s most thirsty in the room?
00:53:30 - This all sounds wrong
00:55:01 - Nikanj’s attraction to cancer
00:57:02 - Tino and breasts again x2… [6, 7]
01:04:39 - Improved gamete preservation by Oankali
01:07:38 - Never ask this question… ever
01:08:23 - Don’t even bother whispering
01:09:36 - Lilith starts telling Tino everything about herself
01:13:04 - How do Oankali communicate their results
01:19:28 - Gabe is alive…
01:20:11 - … and needs to be punched in the face.
01:22:10 - Nikanj’s talent
01:30:30 - We really feel for Lilith
01:31:55 - Something touches Tino
01:32:23 - Chapter 6 summary ends
01:32:33 - Oankali-human fanfiction
01:34:01 - We really, really feel for Lilith
01:38:39 - Chapter 7 predictions

References

REFERENCES: Movie adaptation:

• [1] https://www.indiewire.com/2020/02/dawn-ava-duvernay-amazon-series-1202213726/ - News about the movie adaptation of book 1 Dawn of Octavia Butler’s Xenogenesis trilogy.

Emotions and memory:

• [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2676782/ - Review article from 2009 on the effects of emotions on remembering details. The author suggests that there appear to be many instanes in which negative experiences are remembered better.
• [3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5573739/pdf/fpsyg-08-01454.pdf - Review article from 2017 about the influence of emotion on learning and memory.
• [4] https://www.hhmi.org/news/changing-emotional-association-memories - Article on negative and postive emotions study on mice.

Nuclear bombs:

• [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_bomb - More details about Cobalt bombs. As featured in Nevil Shute’s 1957 post-apoclytic novel On The Beach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(novel)

Evolution of breasts:

• [6] https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/femsplainers/Heying_V2.mp3 - https://femsplainers.com/ podscast discussing the evolution of breasts in humans.
• [7] https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/scientists-still-stumped-by-the-evolution-of-human-breasts - An article discussing the attraction to breasts.

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