Episode: 32 Xenogenesis - Adulthood-Rites: II: PHOENIX Chapters 3, 4 & 5

Show Notes

In episode 32, Richard and Michael discuss how badly humans would probably mess up having conscious control of our low level bodily functions.

Timestamps

00:00:00 - Start
00:00:32 - Welcome
00:01:20 - Chapter 3 predictions
00:03:37 - DnD character
00:04:06 - Chapter 3 summary begins
00:05:07 - Implications of infrared vision were already discussed
00:06:04 - Oankali body temperature [1, 2]
00:08:39 - Rabbit pee
00:11:04 - Chickens run very hot
00:11:25 - Back to Chapter 3
00:13:43 - Chapter 3 summary ends
00:13:55 - At least he is aware he is incompetent
00:14:26 - Chapter 4 prediction
00:15:18 - Shrek character
00:15:47 - Chapter 4 summary starts
00:16:32 - Controlling your bleeding [3, 4]
00:17:45 - Ulcers [5, 6]
00:20:27 - Problem with pharmaceutical companies
00:21:43 - Back to clotting
00:25:35 - Circular artery in the brain [7]
00:30:27 - Back to Chapter 4
00:32:17 - It would be disconcering if objects started talking back
00:36:03 - Tino was innocent
00:38:24 - Humans vs Oankali - xenophobia vs xenophilia (long discussion)
00:41:33 - Prisoner’s dilemma [8]
00:50:55 - Harry Potter and Methods of Rationality
00:52:47 - Chapter 4 summary almost ends
00:54:13 - Chapter 4 summary ends
00:55:53 - Chapter 5 prediction
00:56:37 - Chapter 5 summary
00:57:27 - Too soon for ooloi construct
01:00:14 - Sex change in fish [9 - 12]
01:01:12 - Change in birth cycle in humans and Oankali
01:10:46 - Back to chapter 5
01:13:10 - Examples of strange birthing processes [13 - 16]
01:18:43 - The new baby
01:21:06 - The problems with humans being bipedal and standing straight [17]
01:22:48 - The chapter 5 ends
01:24:34 - Chapter 6 prediction
01:25:08 - Outro

References

Body temperature in mammals:

• [1] https://besjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2435.2007.01341.x - Article investigating the body temperature in different mammalian groups.
• [2] https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/body-size-and-temperature-why-they-matter-15157011/ - Body size and temperature - Nature article.

Process of healing and formation of blood clots:

• [3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5087220/ - Review article about wound healing.
• [4] https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsob.200223 - Another review article discussing the mechanisms of wound healing.

Ulcers:

• [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peptic_ulcer_disease - Wikipedia article on ulcers.
• [6] https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/when-scientists-experiment-on-themselves-h-pylori-and-ulcers/ - Neil Noakes.

Circle of Willis:

• [7] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/circle-of-willis - An important junction of arteries in the brain.

Prisoner’s dilemma:

• [8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma - Wikipedia article about the dilemma.

Sex change in animals:

• [9] https://www.open.edu/openlearn/science-maths-technology/biology/why-do-some-fish-change-sex - Article about why do some fish change sex.
• [10] https://theconversation.com/what-we-learn-from-a-fish-that-can-change-sex-in-just-10-days-129063 - Another article about fish sex change.
• [11] https://wildlifeinformer.com/fish-that-change-gender/ - Examples of fish that change sex.
• [12] https://sci-hubtw.hkvisa.net/10.1016/bs.ctdb.2018.12.014 - Nature article going into a very in-depth reasons behind sex change in fish.

Strange fertilisation and birthing processes in animals and insects:

• [13] https://www.bedbugsinsider.com/how-do-bed-bugs-reproduce/ - Bed bug reproduction.
• [14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Surinam_toad - Surinam toad birthing process.
• [15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus#Reproduction - Reproduction cycle in octopi.
• [16] https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/03/there-is-an-octopus-with-a-detachable-penis/ - Argonaut octopus.

Problem with human evolution:

• [17] https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/02/human-evolution-gain-came-pain - Examples of issues with evolution in humans.

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